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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dan Newcombe) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Dan Newcombe)
>Subject: Trumpet may be causing my PC to reboot!
>Date: 22 Mar 1994 12:51:59 -0600

>Okay, While I'm not 100% sure that Trumpet is the cause, I'm beginning to
>think it is.  I say this, because while at lunch, I left my machine running
>with CUTCP (no winsock) and it did not reboot (like monday and friday when
>Winsock was up).    I exited CUTCP, waited a minute while I read my mail, and
>then went to load Trumpet up, and the computer froze for two seconds, and
>then rebooted.

>It seems that this is happening whenever I receive a message (mail).  We are
>using a Novell network w/ NetWare and Pegasus for our mail.  I have nwpopup
>running (which is supposed to display a popup window saying you have new mail
>from ...)  This does not come up.    Other than this I have no problems with
>either trumpet or Novell.  It seems to be erratic in it's behavior.
>Sometimes it will go for hours without dying (and I can receive the
>messages), and other times, every message kills it.

>If anyone has clues or similar problems, I'd love to hear how to fix it!!!

>    -Dan
>--
>Dan A. Newcombe           Clayton State College       Computing Services
>E-Mail Address: [e-mail]          (404)-961-3421
>-  And then one day, hooray, another way for gnomes to say, Hooray!
>                                    Pink Floyd, The Gnome


You can be sure, don't work in a doswindows or use dosprogs when
running winsock, your comp. will reboot.........nice after all
those drive mappings.....

/ Johan
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From: [e-mail] (Mark A. Scarton)
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Subject: Re: NetManage's moving problems (Chameleon 4.0)

>As for getting hold of tech support people, they are experiencing growing
>pains.  Again, they are aware of it, but it takes time to hire and train new
>tech supporters.  I guess the release of Chameleon 4.0 and all the $99
>copies they've been selling at the trade shows has overwhelmed them a bit.  I
>hope this will improve soon.

Although I sympathize with their problem controlling their growth, they've made
it _my_ problem.  I have sent them over different 20 problem descriptions in
the past 1.5 months; I received exactly two responses, one of which was from a
developer saying that he would look into the problem and the other from
someone saying that she'd pass my problem along.  I have to exit Windows
repeatedly throughout the day to reinitialize things after a GPF.

>So, all you people out there who want to download the patch files, I guess
>you'll have to wait a little longer until they fix their problems.

>Personally, I like NetManage.  They've always treated me well and I've been
>using their product since way back to version 2.00.  I hope they can get their
>house in order.

Actually, I like the product as well.  I just don't think that as a company
they are committed to servicing their customers, and I can't place
my business and my own customer's satisfaction at risk due to their
shortcomings.  So I'm looking at other vendor's products and if I find a
better solution I'll be moving on (and hopefully taking my 500+ clients
with me).  It's too bad, they could do well, but I need a relationship with a
company that will be there when _I_ need them, not when _they_ can be
available.  If they can turn it around in the mean time, I will reconsider
staying with them.  I don't hold a grudge, but I do have a really long memory.

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Subject:   Re: Distinct VBX distribution will cost you

On Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:40:31 -0500, "Kent Cearley" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Just made this unfortunate discovery, a caveat for those considering this
> route... Distinct's Visual Edition controls for developing Winsocket
> Applications require additional components at runtime besides the VBXes. For
> a "generic" Winsocket exe you will also need to distribute with your
> application the DISTINCT.DLL and GHOST.EXE. They are asking $100 to distribute
> the first copy with a sliding scale down to around $50 apiece for 50 copies,
> etc.
>
> There also seem to be strange incompatabilities with their libraries and the
> winsock.dll implementation of other vendors, only LAN Workplace is supported
> with their ICMP options, the FTP libraries don't work with FTP Inc. What else
> I wonder (and I've just had it for 3 hours)?
>
> Slightly bummed new owner of Distinct Visual Edition...

For anyone else bummed out about this, your alternative is GCP++ Custom
Controls: $198 for TCP/UDP, $398 TELNET, $398 TFTP, $598 VT-220 (graphical
control).

No royalties, unlimited distribution license.  30-day money-back guarantee.
90 days free maintenance.  Please tell your friends!
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From [e-mail] Fri Mar 25 16:41:51 1994
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From: [e-mail] (Pat Hayes)
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Subject: Re: TCP/IP & NFS Software...VxD-based TCP/IP is here...

S>I am looking for a tcp/ip - nfs package for a dos/windows pc
S>I have seen Sun PCNFS but this takes up to much room when installed.
S>I have herd of a package called TUN-TCP does any one know about this
S>I package. would also like info about any public domain NFS software
S>for wondows.

M>Try NetManage's Chameleon, which comes several flavors (with/without
M>NFS, with/without XWindows, with/without developement kits). It is
M>strictly Windows-based, and leaves a 6K footprint in conventional RAM.
M>(It uses DLLs only.)

--

Chameleon is OK. It comes with lots of winsock apps...which are (IMHO)
not quite as cool as the s/w stuff available on the net.  Chameleon
is strictly DLL-based, which shuts you off from DOS-box TCP/IP. I
read that Netmanage is _not_ in a hurry to get with the VxD program.

If you're not in a hurry to plunk down $$$, give the free (beta)
TCP/IP stack from Microsoft a try.  Its VxD-based.  Doesn't come with
a bunch of apps like Chameleon, but should run any winsock-compatible
app like Trumpet news, WS_FTP, HGopher, Mosaic, Celllo, and Eudora
mailer. I heard that a refined ver of this stack and some net apps
may be included with Chicago.

If you just gotta blow some money, give the folks at Frontier
a holler.  They've just released their VxD-based stuff.  I haven't
seen it yet, but the reviews are good (PCWEEK and INFOWORLD). It
(SuperTCP/NFS 4.0) comes with NFS, FTP, email, terminal emulation,
but I don't see anything about X (you could probably get NCD's
great PC-Xware to run with this).

Also, FTP is hard at work on a VxD-based product, due for release
in a couple months.

VxD will be the way to go.

Pat <not affiliated with any of the above> Hayes


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Subject: international installation of mstcp32 vxd
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 09:17:30


>well, there's exactly the same problem with the German WfW 3.11. At least now I
>sm sure it's a problem of the setup program and not of the way I used it.
>
>If anybody finds a way to install the vxdbeta on German, French, etc. ...
>versions of WfW 3.11, please post or mail.

we have been able to reproduce this problem here in redmond.  it appears
to only affect some international versions of wfw3.11 and we are
agressively pursuing a fix.  i will post a message to these lists once
we have an updated install which remedies this problem.  i apologize for
the difficulties you've experienced.

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